Wednesday, 30 October 2013

Getting Cross (Rail) Too

Councillor Stuart Gordon Bullock, Steve O'Connell AM, Gloriana Andrew and Simon Densley holding up signs spelling out 'CR2 Stop Here' and a 'Conservatives' poster
Cllr Stuart Gordon Bullock, Steve O'Connell AM, Gloriana Andrew and Simon Densley (aka Me)
A campaign started by this blog and local Conservatives to get proposed Cross Rail 2 trains to stop at Worcester Park at has been taken up in earnest by local traders and residents.

Under current plans, the proposed Cross Rail 2 trains (not to be confused with High Speed 2 or HS2 heading from London to ‘The North’) would make a stop at Motspur Park and then come straight through Worcester Park without so much as a cursory glance while thundering over the bridge and down the line to Epsom, the next and final stop.

‘Why would anyone stop at Motspur Park in preference to Worcester Park?’ seems to be the cry going up. Sure Motspur Park has a few nice shops and I’m sure the people living there are lovely, however – they don’t have 4 major bus routes stopping at their station including the X26 to Heathrow. They don’t have the thriving hub of business and industry that is Central Road; and they don’t have the sheer volume of people that would use the train every day to commute to and from Central and North London via Victoria, Tottenham Court Road, Kings Cross and the other useful stops along the proposed route. It's not that I think anyone has any objection to the train calling in at Motspur Park, it’s just why is there no planned stop at the vastly more sensible Worcester Park?

Gloriana with a local resident signing
The campaign to get this changed has been in full swing for a short while now. Local Conservative campaigners have been talking to various politicians and have started a petition which London Assembly member Steve O’Connell (pictured left) will present to the London Mayor Boris Johnson. Many local traders already have a copy of the petition in their shops for people to sign (please see the current list of traders below). There is also an electronic version which you can sign here.

I have brought up the issue the couple of times I have met the mayor (pictured right) and recently wrote to London Travelwatch (who will be making a recommendation to the Mayor) about Cross Rail 2 serving Worcester Park, saying that it will:
“Reinvigorate the entire local economy without adding significantly to the number of cars driving into the area. In fact it may even decrease their number as the additional rail options will mean fewer local residents needing to drive to work.”
Steve O’Connell, who is also currently pressing for the tram from Wimbledon to Croydon to extend down to Sutton, sees Worcester Park as a key part of overall improvements to local transport . He told the blog that:
“I am pushing to get Cross Rail 2 calling at Worcester Park and also the tram down to Sutton so we can then run an express bus between Sutton and Worcester Park, creating a very attractive overall transport solution for the local area and Sutton borough generally.”
On the 11th of September Steve officially asked The London Mayor, Boris Johnson:
“Will you confirm that if the regional option of Crossrail 2 goes ahead that trains will stop at Worcester Park?”
The Mayor responded (in writing) with:
“TfL and Network Rail have just completed a joint consultation on Crossrail 2 which included two options: a metro scheme and a regional scheme. The metro scheme would not serve Worcester Park. A regional scheme would have the potential to serve Worcester Park through its connections with the South West Trains network. 
At this stage, TfL is analysing the responses to the consultation and a decision on which scheme to progress will be made at the end of the year. We welcome the views of local residents. If the regional scheme is taken forward, decisions on service patterns, routes and stopping arrangements will be subject to more detailed analysis with Network Rail over the course of the next year and there will be further opportunity to comment thereafter.”
Paul Scully, Conservative parliamentary candidate for Sutton, Cheam and Worcester Park has also taken the opportunity to raise this issue with Government transport Secretary, Patrick McLoughlin (both pictured right).

As promised, below is the list of local shops which have a copy of the petition which you can sign. Please contact the blog if you know of (or are) any other shops who would like to keep a copy for local people to sign. And remember you can sign the electronic version too. Hopefully between all these and other efforts we might end up with some much needed improvement to local public transport in Worcester Park.

Shops where you can sign the petition:
  • UK Household
  • Woodfall Optitions
  • Kingston South (Property construction & Development)
  • Moonlight Hair Salon
  • Centrals Bar
  • WH Smith
  • Gascoigne Pees
  • Worcester Park Wine
  • Surrey King Cafe
  • Poundland
  • Kingfish
  • Mr Ink
  • Prospects Recruitment
  • Worcester park Mini Market
  • Worcester park Post Office
  • Ryan Gate
  • PC Fix Centre
  • Acacia Hair & Beauty
  • Kim's (Barber shop)
  • Clarks
  • Boots Pharmacy
  • Trutex
  • Glitz M Glam
  • Ross Fruiterers
  • Checkers Cafe
  • The Conservatory Florist
  • Hair Design by Shef (Cut and Blend Barbers)
  • Pets Place
  • Woodward Bros (Fresh Quality Meats)


15 COMMENTS (Add Yours Now!):

Barry Cullum said...

That was a typical politicians answer..... 24 carat bullsh*t....

WPark resident said...

Traffic in this area is a huge problem. So much so that I
have friends that would never consider living in this area because of it. It is
so frustrating to see that Cross Rail 2 has not planned to come to Worcester
Park when it is so clear that it could make a real difference to the traffic
problems which occur here. During rush hour we have hoards of people who need
to travel both to London and Epsom/Sutton so there is clearly the demand for
it.

It is even more frustrating when there are potential plans
in place that could severely increase the amount of traffic. I for one have no
intention of sticking around if something isn't done to help this situation.

guest D said...

And the timing is typically political as well, election May 2014, stage 1 consulation finished Aug 2013, so have a campaign now typical!


On the positive side it will give plenty of time to prepare for the next consulation mid 2015 after the decision has been made between the metro and regional options. If the metro option is chosen then it is game over anyway.


Also don't hold your breath for it to solve WP's traffic problems, the current opening date is set for early 2030's, but the opening date for CR1 was early 1960s so take that with a pinch of salt.

guest ab said...

As much as i support CR2 to WP it will not make a lot of difference in reducing the amount of road traffic in WP.
As many of the existing train users using WP station come from surrounding areas(Epsom etc) which are from a higher fare zone than WP. And who can save a lot of ££, by driving to WP and then catching the train.
This can be avoided by moving 'Zone 4' to Epsom/Chessington and other areas.
But i suspect that if and when in operation, CR2 will have a different and higher fare structure than present, and on the assumption that commuters still want to save money,
then there will be even more cars coming to WP.
Oh what a conundrum !!!!!!!

Barry Cullum said...

On re-reading Boris's rather convoluted reply, I can see what he's saying now.
1. The metro option will not serve Worcester Park. End of story.
2. The regional option has "potential" to serve Worcester Park if you change trains at Motspur Park. So I presume it also has the "potential" to serve Stoneleigh, West Ewell, Malden Manor, Tolworth, and North Chessington too.
He's right, but what a stupid way of saying you'll have to change at Motspur Park.
I suppose it was asking too much for him to say "I can confirm that CR2 won't stop at Worcester Park" ... Straight Answers R Not Us is definitely Boris.
I wasn't even considering that it solves WP traffic problems... Well before 2030 I'm sure WP will grind to a clagging halt if traffic continues to increase the way it has..... And I'm taking that date with a very large pinch of salt indeed!

Barry Cullum said...

By the way... yes, I did re-read the second paragraph of his statement.... But I ignored it because I don't believe it. As you said.... political timing

guest D said...

For a politician it is unsually clear. I remember in the first book of the foundation trilogy, a planet received a message from a warlord, everyone agreed that it was very positive, but none could agree on what it said. It was run through a computer that decoded it as.


We are going to invade.
You will be defeated.
We might let you survive.


I think with CR2 as with CR1, when the costs come out and are put against the benefits, it will be canned as was CR1. Though this time I don't think there will be a Ken Livingstone to bring it back to life.


I also think it won't be needed in 20 years time, it will be the equivalent of all those horse troughs put in the 20s, 30s etc as motor transport was taking over. In the same way I think that cheap and ever faster broadband will seriously cut down on commuting to work.

Job said...

Why stop at mostspur park? Massive property development potential on the old bbc sports field, maybe someone has an interest somewhere. Totally agree with WP needing it more I lived in new Malden for 7 years never saw it as busy in rush hour as WP.

Barry Cullum said...

I just ran Boris's statement through a computer that decoded it as:


There will be some sort of CR2
It will not stop at Worcester Park
We will not take any notice of you.



No, I don't think it will be needed in 20 years time either. A 20's horse trough is an adequate description for it. A lot like HS2, it's desperation for the present masking vision for the future.
Sure, if CR1 & CR2 had been up and running back in the 60's or 70's, London would have blended itself around it and it would have been a fantastic investment. ... but it didn't happen.
I don't live in Worcester Park any more, but I share the frustrations demonstrated by 'guest ab', 'WPark resident', and yourself 'guest D', and all the others who've moaned about the traffic situation in Worcester Park. But it's a London-wide problem which appears to be getting worse year upon year. Telling me that CR2 will be up and running in 20 years time to solve today's problems...... well, back to your 20's and 30's horse troughs Guest D

Alan said...

Motspur Park has never been appealing to business. The old BBC Sports Ground is now an overgrown eye sore and the so called High Street there leaves a lot to be desired. WP has so much more to offer and has greater scope to business expansion!

hootsmon said...

You are all forgetting It's not just the urban sprawl of Motspur Park that will benefit, it's also the major centres of Malden Manor, Tolworth and Chessington North!!

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