Monday, 4 March 2013

Notice Served on Proposed Mosque Building


The saga of the old bank chambers at 2-4 Green Lane, now well known as the site of the proposed Mosque continues. People who have been apparently using it all along as a mosque have had notice served on them for breaching planning law.

There were many reports of people gathering there at set prayer times while their planning proposal was being debated last year. And more reports of people continuing afterwards in spite of planning permission being turned down. Here’s a recording of Worcester Park Conservative Councillor Stuart Gordon Bullock speaking at the Cheam North and Worcester Park local committee (Mon 10th Dec 2012) about the problem, a week after the application was rejected:



Councillor Gordon Bullock has apparently had to keep the pressure up on Sutton Council to enforce the planning decision. As a result, the Planning Contravention Notice was finally served on the 13th of February and the building is now no longer being used for this purpose.


15 COMMENTS (Add Yours Now!):

shelokay said...

after their bizarre speach at the meeting they really seem to be in denial and think they have the automic right to use this place as a mosque!

The Huntsmans Eye said...

That kind of makes a mockery of all the objections about traffic huh?

Browning blogger said...

Not sure, Mr Eye - everyone grumbles about the level of traffic currently down Green Lane. Perhaps this already contributes to it...

The Huntsmans Eye said...

My point exactly. Most people claimed to be objecting to traffic, in reality no-one noticed any difference even while extra people were flooding into Worcester Park to use the building as a mosque...

From Beyond said...

I am wondering how the Muslims would feel if we tried to open or run a church in their country without asking or having permission ?

Ray of Sunshine said...

Eye, I fail to see how any of this can make a mockery of the objections towards increased traffic. People who live in and around Worcester Park have been complaining for years about the increasing amount of traffic in Green Lane - unless we were hanging around stalking the mosque, how do we know they've been driving there and not parking further away and walking in an attempt to cover up their covert worship? All that has been said is that the mosque being agreed would increase the traffic further - and of course it would, there would be no need for the mosque attendees to pretend they're not there for that reason - they could drive around and park with pride, as close as humanly possible. Granted, the traffic issue in Green Lane is in part caused by the drivers who are so proud of being able to drive in a straight line, they seem to ignore the lights and block the exit of Green Lane. Nobody can police that and it appears to be down to selfish ignorance, no surpises in this day and age. Come on mosque goers, if you don't like the decision, fight it - don't get caught doing it anyway, it just lessens the validity of your cause.

Same planning laws for everyon said...

Eye, open your eyes!

That behind the smoke screen of a planning application, a mosque was up and running "all along" shows us all what utter contempt towards the council, the community and the law lay behind this veneer of an application ... and how right we were to object to it.


A mockery has certainly been made: of council planning officers who have been doing their best to avoid enforcing planning laws and (especially) those who supported the application, either out of blind naivety or political expediency.

Dave said...

Nonsense!
A few people have been flagrantly ignoring the Planning decision.
The objections related to the large numbers who would potentially have turned up on certain days.

Dave said...

There has recently been a programme on BBC2 called "The Planners". In one episode an extension to an existing "mosque" (one of 17 in Rochdale), which would have quadrupled its size, needed 150 parking places according to the Planning Officer. The application included just 2. The Planning Committee voted to allow the extension. So yes, it would be interesting to know if an extension to a church in Rochdale would have received a similar result.

Same planning law for everyone said...

Ref. 'The Planners': What was particularly revealing was that the Councillor who was Chair of the planning meeting wanted the extension and knew that the Planning Officer's assessment advised against the application.

Mindful that Professional Planning opinion didn't suit her personal agenda, the Councillor simply refused to allow the Planning Officer to speak at the Planning Meeting or submit their planning evidence to it ... and all in front of the TV cameras!

Undoubtedly the same Planning Officer would have had the same objections to a church, though I'm very far from certain the result would have been the same! And who knows, perhaps the Planning Officer would have even been able to speak at the Planning meeting!

shelokay said...

omg you think a few people who ignored the ruling would make a difference to the traffic comapred to the 140 planned to use it if it had gone ahead?? im pretty sure if 140 people had been going and using this place anyway it would have been noticed much sooner.. but guess what.. even with just a few people it WAS noticed.. cos thats why a notice was served!! DOH!
The council made the right decision twice! cos twice this has been turned down and to the overwhelming relief of the majority of the residents.. just face facts.. the mosque is not wanted at this site so find a new one!! not hard is it! in a democratic country the majority wins!

shelokay said...

but it wasnt 140 using the place as worship as was intended with plannign permission was it!! also it was noticed cos otherwise u wouldnt be reading about it!! honestly some people...

shelokay said...

come on people stop bleating on about noone noticed any difference in traffic as the place was used.. it clearly WAS noticed as they were served with a notice!!

also how many were using the building? i doubt it was anywhere near the 140 intended to go there in the planning application was it?? yet with much fewer numbers they were caught!!

reality check people

ConcernedWP said...

Does anyone know what is gong on in there Now? There are sheets in the window today.....

Deja Vu said...

I see from looking through Sutton Planning Applications that there is an Application Number A2013/67455 proposing a four year temporary Mosque, change to garage doors and the obligatory cycle facilities. As the traffic seems to be worse by the day I cannot see what has changed since the first Application was denied.

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