Monday, 10 January 2011

Terrific Jam

Thanks to blog reader Duncan who was out and about in Worcester Park this morning and took these snaps of the traffic chaos along Caldbeck Avenue and Longellow Road, and a peaceful and serene Green Lane:

"Monday morning, diversions in place, traffic backing up...and not a workman or piece of equipment in sight. Could they have spared us the chaos until 10am and saved paying weekend rates to whomever put the signs out?"

Now that's a very good point - has anyone actually spotted any roads being worked on today?



22 COMMENTS (Add Yours Now!):

foxy said...

Why oh why are the lights still turned on at Green lane and at Worcester Park station?There are no cars coming,but the lights just hold up the Central road traffic.Also if someone turns right into the station everyone has to stop.What a bunch of plonkers.Will they be changing the bridge height signs as well?

Anonymous said...

There were teams working throughout the day .looks like they were rerouting cables across Green Lane at the junction of Central Road.also just outside cant remember it's new name (used to be The Huntsman) also in the road by the bus stop adjacent to the 'Worcester' .Contractors have also taken down the railings by the Kingfish round to the Post Office Etc.
Didn't look like anyone was sleeping on a shovel.
As they say Foxy you cant make an omelette without breaking eggs.

Longster said...

By 6pm last night all seemed quite quiet. I think the lights at green lane are off now meaning traffic was just flowing straight through.

I remember once when all the lights in WP failed and traffice was a dream... I wonder if despite the road works, if they keep the lights off this whole nightmare could turn into a blessing?!

Anonymous said...

valid point about the traffic lights foxy, they need to address this, although i guess it frees up the traffic after worcester park.

Anonymous said...

Seems to me that the traffic is flowing more quickly through WP. but i suppose it's only day 2.but it seems that the barrier across at the Avenue had been moved and some traffic was turning into the Avenue holding up traffic behind them as the manouvered around some cones !!!!

Geoff said...

But why is The Avenue closed. There are various works but they are all on the grass verges at the moment. Well they were up to yesterday evening, Wednesday.

Anonymous said...

To the person who said the traffic was clearer than ever down Central Road must have put magic mushrooms in their risotto instead of Porcini, as my experience of Central Road couldn't have been more different.

By 4.10pm today the queue stretched from Worcester Park station right back into (and probably past) Cheam Village.

Firstly, to the public transport advocates, i normally do get the bus, but today i couldn't.

I cant really offer much constructive solution, other than why wasn't this work carried out during the summer holiday period instead of now?

Furthermore, the term 'co-ordinated works' is a total misnomer. In my view, co-ordinated does not mean 'we're going to do it all at the same time for maximum disruption' which is what is currently happening.

Co-ordinated should mean that the people responsible for the 'improvements' work closely with the entire surrounding area, and change traffic light phasing, or switch lights off where necessary, and take various other steps to ease the disruption. There's nothing co-ordinated about digging as many holes as possible in a small area at the same time.

In addition to this, work is going to take place along London Road I've heard, and this will further compound the issue around here. The only thing co-ordinated about these works is TFL/various other agencies' short sightedness, laziness and stupidity.

The main problem i felt today, was that as soon as one single person tried to turn right into Worcester Park station, it blocked the entire road (as the stretch of road immediately before the Avenue is down to 1 lane), and held up 3 to 4 hundred other cars queuing all the way back to Sutton.

I don't know what the answer is, but as the Avenue is closed off, they should possibly stop cars turning right into the station, and turn the traffic lights off outside the station in their entirety, thus allowing traffic to flow more freely through Worcester Park. The situation as it stands is diabolical.

Also...turning left into Manor Drive in order to get to Kingston via Tolworth... The queue was crazy with people trying to get back down Manor Drive and out into Worcester Park.

Why all these drivers are so blinkered, and just a bit on the thick side, that they have to then block the whole road off in the other direction by waiting in a traffic jam alongside parked cars instead of pulling into gaps is beyond me. I apologise for the language used by me to said people in this traffic jam, but it was absolutely justified!

Anyway, rant nearing the end, this is an ill thought out and totally inconvenient situation, and with a bit more forward thinking and planning at the start, it could have been very different.

What compensation or comfort is there for the people, using car or bus, who are not getting home until at the very least an hour later than usual, stressed to the max, knowing there's at least another 9 weeks of it to go.

I can't help but think there will be a tipping point at some stage in the near future, where Worcester Park gets totally saturated with traffic, and the infrastructure collapses.

Then a by-pass will probably be built straight over the top of Central Road, and consequently Worcester Park will die a slow and sorry death.

And i cant help but think also, that a bit of actual 'co-ordination' between various organisations would prevent it. But that is mere wishful thinking.

Anonymous said...

anon(Thurs)
if they turn off the lights at the station how on earth are the commuters going to be able to cross the road to/from the station.as far as the problems in Manor Drive are concerned ,i would have thought the easiest solution for the Council(Kingston)would be to put in a traffic order to stop all parking on one side of the the road.But this again raises problems for residents, patients at the doctors and the mums at the Doris Venner.who has a solution!!!!!!!!

P I Staker said...

Flying cars and people shutes a la Futurama

Anonymous said...

Its the cars turning right into the station that is the problem. However the solution is simple: Worcester Park bound traffic should be funnelled beside the kerb at the station ,which leaves room for a car to wait to turn right into the station without impeding other traffic. Easy.

Anonymous said...

Am I the only person with enough common sense not to park in the roads that are being used as rat runs during the diversions? Would it not make sense for the council to suspend parking on at least one side of the road while the diversions are in place?

Or is this a case of one council not talking to another?

Gordo's neighbour said...

Re street parking (Anon), I guess every road from Longfellow to Ruskin and beyond is serving as a diversion resulting from the closure of the Green Lane exit, and it'd be difficult for residents to find alternative parking.

However, there is one narrow choke point where Longfellow meets Green Lane, where residents could park on Green Lane without having to walk too far from their front doors. The road curves here, and it's very difficult to see oncoming traffic, especially when the S3 is trying to navigate through the cars.

And did I mention the port-a-loo, which has now been replaced by a skip?

Anonymous said...

Does anyone have access to the detailed programme of works for this scheme to monitor their progress to date and see how the contractors are performing, bearing in mind we are just coming to the start of week 3...?? Just a thought.

caldbeck said...

I'm hating it all! I live down Caldbeck and so many people are parking down there now and so many using it to drive down that parking is a nightmare(as is driving down the road). I've not been able to park anywhere near my house too often to count since these works have started.

Little Smiff said...

Following my initial rant from yesterday I felt that I had to add further comments this morning. The thread throughout these comments seems to be about the total lack of "co-ordination" surrounding these road works. The lack of warning about the closure of Longfellow Road / Gren Lane caught out dozens of residents last night. At one point yesterday evening Lincoln Road was totally blocked by a car and a bus trying to travel in opposite directions. Supposing this had been an ambulance or fire engine trying to gain access to the Hamptons or Station Estate? It may sound melodramatic but are lives at risk because of these road works? RBK, presumably, are now digging up the footpath opposite the entrance to Caverleigh Way. Unlit barriers with inaccurate road signs. This further reduces access into the Kingshill, Hughenden and Risborough residential areas and creates additional parking problems for parents at Green Lane School. Also I must offer (ironic) congratulations to L.B. of Sutton for allowing three refuse trucks to block Browning Avenue, Longfellow and Washington Roads at 7.00 this morning. No chance of altering routes to delay collections until after the commuter and school run then? Is there any organisation taking responsibilty for this chaos? Are the stakeholder groups monitoring the situation in any way? I know I am not alone in this situation but these road works are costing me and my family both time and money. Will we notice the difference after the works are completed? Somehow I doubt it!!

Anonymous said...

Just live with it and get a life, i'm also affected but hey.... life's too short... Too many people are only happy when moaning or complaining...so smile and get on with your day....

minigee said...

A contraflow is now in place under WP railway bridge so there are queues stretching for miles in every direction. Please don't pull out of a side road to turn right unless you are sure that you can get into the queue without blocking the road. It brings everything grinding to a halt in both directions. Grrr! And please leave space for traffic coming the other way at the bottom of the Manor Drive. Double Grrr!!

Barbyk said...

Think there's been another hold up on Central Load. I believe a lorry has broken down outside Rumours this evening bringing chaos to the top of Worcester Park..think it is time to get a pushbike

Anonymous said...

What a nightmare the high street was tonight don't know what was worse sitting in it or sitting in one of the side roads. How long will this last for? Why didn't they do it last week during half term?

Anonymous said...

It took me two hours to get from Sutton to Kingston yesterday, and two hours to get home again after work (four hours of travelling for a six hour shift!) thanks to the new temporary traffic lights. I was late by half an hour - for which I lose pay. The X26 was full of people in the same situation last night - most of whom, like me, have no other way of getting to and from work. One bus driver asked his passengers to get off at North Cheam and wait for another bus as he had reached his maximum driving hours for the day! Having to do this journey twice a day five days a week really is taking it's toll...I hope these works are finished on time.

Geoff said...

To Anonymous with the Sutton/Kingston journey. And I mean this as a genuine question. Have you considered the train? I know it depends on where you actually live in Sutton and work in Kingston, but the train journey time is about 45 minutes. A temporary solution maybe?

Anonymous said...

at the end of the day when the shools are on holidays the traffic is normal and we can all go about our business with a big fat smile on our face. I really dont know why school starts at the same time as work. It makes no sense to have all that traffic on the roads at the same time all trying to meet the same 9am start. Surely they could start at 10am.

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