Wednesday, 20 February 2008

One letter and now you're a part of it...

Under cover of darkness and behind twitching suburban net curtains, a network of secret informants is working to provide The Worcester Park Blog with the latest gossip, scandal and local information.

OK, well it's not that glamorous. But I am indebted to my growing army of informants who feed me interesting tid-bits of information on goings-on in Worcester Park.

If you have a story, campaign, promotion or simply a complaint that you think the rest of Worcester Park should know about e-mail me (e-mail address at the top of the blog) or post a comment via the 'Guest Book' link.

Anonymity is assured - I never ever reveal my sources!

I look forward to hearing from you.

WP

47 COMMENTS (Add Yours Now!):

Alex, Oaks Avenue said...

Hello and thank you for an informative and entertaining blog. One quick point I would like to mention is the critical stance on charity shops.

Realistically, the only alternative to the charity shop is the boarded up eyesore, complete with the usual broken windows and graffiti. Given the choice, there can be little doubt that residents would prefer the former (well, except for odd budding graffiti ‘artist’).

Yes, it would be nice to have a high street full of small, independent retailers but that’s simply not going to happen – those days are gone. [The truth is that local traders disappeared because local people stopped shopping locally].

So, we may as well grin and bear the invasion of charity shops, since they offer the useful function of local recycling centres for anything unwanted and more importantly, they prevent the high street from looking like downtown Beirut.

FOXY said...

I THINK THE BLOG IS BRILL KEEPS ME UP TO DATE WITH PLANET WP

Anonymous said...

Went to Papa John's this evening for the first time and must say I was extremely surprised by the customer service, and the pizza was really tasty.......best I've had!

Bloke who doesn't like BNP leaflets in his door said...

As I walked the dog on Saturday I noticed a large group of people delivery yellow leaflets around the Hamptons. Nothing exciting there. Sadly on arriving home I discovered the leaflet was a BNP 'join us, burn the foreigners' leaflet.

Thinking back I seem to remember that the 'leafleters' didn't seem particularly British in the BNP sense which I found a little amusing. It did get me thinking though that as far as I understand 'BNP British' - which I assume is atleast 2-3 indigenous British generations - isn't that common.

I was born and raised in England, with a 1st class degree and decent job. I've contributed to this country in terms of tax and charity work yet if the BNP policies were in place, my hispanic/brazilian parents would have been turfed out of the country.

I suspect there are many similar backgrounds to mine. Most people have at least a little 'foreign' influence in there family lines. And what of the 3 generations of black and asian British people,..

My partner tells me that everyone has a right to their own political leanings. This is true. I would, however, like to acknowledge my right to express the opinion that the BNP way is wrong. All countries around the world throughout history have been molded by outside influences and become stronger and better for it. Those that shun the outside world become weak and helpless and inevitably disappear.

Right,.. off for a cuppa tea.

Anonymous said...

Just cant my mouth shut any longer about the 'feud' between the social housed neighbours of the Hamptons and the residents of the Hamptons.

I have been living in the Hamptons for a year and no I dont own one of the lovely houses and my wife and 2 children are probably the 'poorest' of all the residents on the Hamptons and am verging on social housing myself. I have noted over the year that I have been there the absolutely disgusting manner in which 'outsiders' and their gangs of unsupervised children have roamed the development causing damage to everything beautiful and ruining what was initially meant to be a place of beauty and where families came to escape this disgraceful socially acceptable manner in which we are forced to live in this so called first world country.

In the last week alone I and my wife have confronted 2 groups of 'chavs'(products of this wonderful country)kicking the lovely water feature (so hard that their football boots left dents in the feature. To what end do they do this? Never mind the relentless spraypainting of the benches at the look out on top of the hill or the kids play ground. Why do repectable people have to turn a blind eye always and put up with this underclass of people this country is encouraging. I grew up poor, but have always had respect for other peoples property something these little classless thugs dont. I feel privileged to live in such a wonderful place. How can they expect the residents to treat them equally when their behaviour doesn't warrant it in the slightest.

Its the same old ....bottom always pulls top down....just like in our schools. The future looks 'great' doesnt it. Whats happened to decency and respect. If my kids ever turn out like these useless little &*%$£ ......

Anonymous said...

Couldnt agree with you more! Its such a problem, and people think that youre just being classist, but youre not. Some of these people ar so genuinely mindless and destructive! Why do we have to put up with it???

WP's my home too... said...

I was quite surprised the other evening… Walking home from WP station, 2 blokes were spraying graffiti in the public footpath off the Avenue… Taking flight as soon as I came strolling along, these two geniuses: one hoodie with dark glasses the both an obvious asset to society tried to “trick” me into thinking they lived in the road. So as I pass, they exit the sanctuary of the random property they picked and went back to the footpath.

The surprise? They were closer to 35 than 15…

So if you can’t afford move out of mommy and daddy’s house by 25 are you to remain psychologically stunted forever?

Anonymous said...

Why are whole half eaten chicken carcasses being left in Washington Road? We had five appear outside our house late last night, we thought foxes raiding bins but fear something more sinister now! And please no mention of KFC!

Jill said...

I lived in WP from 1939-62. I remember the Cuddington Rec had a sports day every summer, everyone local went, tea tents, fun and sunshine. St Mary's used to have a fete each summer too, with dancing displays, sports etc. I have photographs of it in the 50s. I also have the information of the house I lived in when it was built. Woodlands Avenue. £750 or slightly more if you wanted a garage. Thank you for the photos of the Odeon, where I used to go on a Saturday morning, such memories. I also went to Kingsley High School in the Avenue, Miss Trott, I hated her!!!!
Carry on the good work, I have enjoyed reading and getting back old memories.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know anything about Worcester Park's 'Bermuda Triangle'? I refer to a large parcel of land that has remained overgrown and undeveloped (largely) since World war Two. I refer to the large piece of wilderness bordered by Royal Avenue, Grafton Road, Cromwell Road and Worcester Park Lane on the west side of Worcester Park. Originally a large building known as Worcester Park House stood there in its owns grounds with a lake and large fishpond from 1795 to about 1945 when it was consumed by fire.

True there has been some residential developments and a couple of special schools and the Hogsmill Tavern on the peripheries but the centre of the area remains wild and inaccessible. Except that I notice there is a stile in Grafton Road leading into it - no other entry seems to exist.

Has anybody ever entered this area or is anything known about it in addition to what is in David Rymill's excellent book "Worcester Park and Cuddington: A walk through the centuries'?

WP-lad said...

How did Radio Jackie getan ad on to the wall of the Old Huntsman? [See title pic.]
Perhaps they knew HG Wells even before they existed.
Perhaps they had access to his time machine.
Perhaps they still have access in which case they should play more from the 60s and boost their listener numbers by at least one.

Anonymous said...

Jay is leaving later this month. Goodbye to one of the friendliest faces on the high street ...

The Parkerilla said...

I'm not sure who Jay is although I probably know him or her by sight, can anyone enlighten me?

Parkerilla

Anonymous said...

Jay runs Krina News at the top of the high street.

Ian Morris said...

Today I was one of the few 'lucky' people to recieve a copy of the Sutton Guardian. I've noticed, and I'm sure a lot of you have too, that it doesn't have many articles about mighty WP in it, so I decided to count how many WP articles were in it. I found a grand total of two articles. One in the sports section about The Worcester Park Bowling club, and one about an assault that took place in Picadily by two WP residents.
At least we have the WP blog to keep us up to date with the goings on of this forgotten town.

Anonymous said...

Just want to say Im loving the WP blog. I lived initially in the Hamptons then more recently up in Langley Ave. I had 3 great years in WP before moving to Devon. There seems to be a lot of talk of decent curry houses - I can highly recommend Indian Cottage on London Road very friendly bunch. Keep up the good work of WP blog! :-)

axlrocky said...

anyone had the pleasure of dealing with moving in and out of sutton borough. They have cooked up a lovely scheme whereby they take your remaining council tax for the year out of your account and then credit back the difference. Whilst it takes 1 day for them to process the money out of your account it takes over 16 days for them to return it. This is tantamount to theft, their excuse was that they do not have enough staff to process the payments and as such can only do 1 run a week. Conveniently they missed me off the last weeks run, apologised and then I have to wait another week. WHen ae we going to remove these idiots from office? The liberal Democrats have ruined Kingston and Sutton and neither council could give a damn about the residents of WP. Dont sit idly by WParkers - vote them out next year!
Thiose on the Kingston Side of WP I suggest voting for Max Freedman (Labour) Kingston born and bred, from Tiffin School and really cares about the local area. In Sutton Phillippa Stroud (CON) should be your pick, she is a real rising star in the political ladder in the conservative party and if you really want things done then you need a high profile candidate. Vote local at the next election and get these Liberal Oppressors out of office!

Anonymous said...

hi jill though i lived in browning ave from 1960 to 1971 i was interested in your txt eag, cuddington fair. and cinema, do you have any ictuires of w.pk? if so plz show them thanks for something interesting phil m ex pat

Chicken Chops senior said...

Why oh why is the traffic so pants in worcester park at the moment? Yesterday it took me 1 hour 45 minutes from getting on the bus outside Greggs to arriving at work in the centre of Kingston. I just don't get it - no obvious sign of anything untoward going on yet, the other side of the A3 and its all moving. I am told it was bad again today. Grrrr.

Anonymous said...

Further to Chicken Chops senior's comment, it takes just 25 minutes to travel by push bike from Dalmeny Road to Central Kingston.

Using the short cut along South Lane, you can use the subway beneath the A3, rather than have to use the A3 itself.

Think of it this way: it will add an hour's exercise to your day and still save you 2 hours a day, either sitting on buses or waiting for them!

Anonymous said...

At long last the traffic lights outside the station that allow traffic from the main road to turn either right into The Avenue or right into the station are facing the right direction! Better late than never it has taken over year since new lights were installed, with two sets of lights facing the same direction, for this to be rectified. Traffic coming either from the A3 or Central Road can now turn right at this junction without wondering if the lights are red or green. It should now be a much less hazardous experienceone from now on!

Anonymous said...

I do have more pictures but no idea how to download them onto this site! sorry.
Jill

Worcester Park said...

Jill - if you send them by e-mail (address at the top of the blog) then I'll gladly post them here.

Anonymous said...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/stagedoor/141625755/

Anonymous said...

Just some lovely old facts for new houses built in Worcester Park in 1938 :
Season ticket to Waterloo: £1.7.6 p.month or £3.13.3 p.quarter.
Electricity 5p per unit flat rate or, with fixed charge 12/6 per quarter. 1/2p in summer.
Gas 9p per therm.
Bet you wished you lived in 1939 and earned your today's salary!!!!
Jill

Anonymous said...

Can we start a blog to see if we can find as many people as possible that lived in Browning Avenue from 1960 to 1975.

Carol Blackburn said...

Is that "short cut" still there? we used to cut through there when we were going to school at Stoneleigh West. This was in the late 1940s and early 1950s. The gypsies used to camp there. They would come to our house at 7 Grafton Road to sell us wooden pegs and primroses in little wooden baskets. My mother would trade a pair of our shoes that we had grown out of.

Anonymous said...

anyone anywhere remember the helicoptor crash in what is now the hamptons?

isaac hunt said...

I remember the helicopter crash..i went over and played on it for a while,before it was carted of on the back of the lorry...dont know if i should admit this,i was one of the scruffy browning kids---69 to 82....who remembers the green lane sports club fete...with bingo in the evening.....i think the summers were hotter in those days? and the shop at the end of green lane seemed to be the only one open on a sunday afternoon,jubly, and some sherbert,next to tom tylers green grocers,...i cant get used to the view down washington road ..give me the old sewers anyday..great for dumping your stolen motorbikes,and browsing other peoples gardens,,,glory days

Anonymous said...

Anyone remember Kingsley High School, that used to be in The Avenue?

Jill

Rosamund said...

Oh Gosh, I just sent a blog and does not appear. Yes I was at Kingsley High in the 60's and who can forget Miss Trott, orge!!!! I was in a class with Audrey?, Sally Whiting, Pat Wadlow and Susan Major - the bullies at that time. Also Linda? and Janice Dowling. Do you remember Miss Swaisland who was injured because she was too fat to get on the bus, and the 'Cafe' at the top of the High Street where we got discount for lunch and also the riding stables. Love to hear from you if you remember anything on these times.
Rosamud (Sealey) that was!!!!

Anonymous said...

i was born at 44 browning ave wp 1960 so im a real parker i guess...

Anonymous said...

I remember Kingsley School where I learned nothing. It was a waste of time and space.
I suppose those in charge made a fortune charging pupils' parents an arm and a leg for the so-called 'education' of their daughters.
What a con!

Anonymous said...

Yes I was at Kingsley high 1942-1954. In my class were Ann hacker, Lynn hartley, Mary McConnell, Margaret ramshaw, Fay Hindle, can't remember anymore. Our teachers were Miss Brown, Miss Hillyer, Miss Tyler, Mrs Andrews. My fees were 5guineas a term from the day I started. I still see Ann Hacker, better known as Biddy. Now 73 and still working using my knowledge cleaned from Kingsley..

Marilyn Davis

mole maguire said...

 no cause therewas not one

mole maguire said...

 i was at that fair too 60s lived at 44 browning ave..maguires

mole maguire said...

 Has anyone pick of browning ave being built 30s...concrete shelters. also

Gay said...

I was at Kingsley High from about 1954 until 1958.  Like others I remember Miss Trott very well!!  Does anybody remember a history teacher called Miss/Mrs Lake?  She taught us the most amazing doggerel poem for remembering dates.  All I can remember is the first few lines which were "In the year 1066/William the Conqueror his crown did fix./In the year 1087/William the Conqueror went to Heaven./William Rufus was his son/Much disliked by everyone."  I'd love to get hold of the whole thing if anybody still has it.

Wedontneednoeducation said...

Ah- ha, this is very interesting! So there was a High School – Kingsley High?-in Worcester Park once upon a time?! I thought it strange that such a large purpose built suburb would have been designed without all the necessary facilities, as they were normally pretty good at town planning at that time.
 So can anyone provide more information about what type of school it was? Mixed? Selective? Where exactly was it- I’m guessing it was on the site which now includes Kingsley Drive and was subsequently allowed to be developed as housing. Does anyone know why it was  closed, when and by whom (Surrey CC, Kingston Council?) Have to say that it looks like a pretty moronic decision now given the lack of school places in the area! Thanks for any help to answer these questions.

Gay said...

Have only just picked up your post.  I can give you the following information about Kingsley High School.  It was a private school, not a state school and was housed in a large Victorian/Edwardian house on the left-hand side of The Avenue going towards Worcester Park.  I haven't been that way in years so have no idea what's there now.  It was a girls only school taking children from the age of 5 up to the 11+.  I have a faint recollection that there may have been a kindergarten attached to it, and it may have taken pupils beyond the age of 11, but I left there at that age to go to grammar school so my memory could be at fault there!  It certainly wasn't a purpose-built school building!  At break time we had the run of the large garden.  I remember there was a mound with an old tree stump where stag beetles lived which used to be a source of great excitement to the younger children, and in the winter although we still had to play outside (well wrapped up) steaming mugs of weak Bovril used to be handed out to us through the kitchen window!  I don't know who actually owned the school.  Miss Trott, of terrifying memory, was the headmistress, but I don't know if she had anything to do with the ownership of the school or the building.  I hope this provides a bit more information.  I haven't had any luck with my request for Miss Lake's history poem.  I live in hope! 

Diana B. said...

Oh how this brings back memories. Just by luck I have come across this blog and must write about Kingsley High School. I was a student there from 1953-1957. Oh I remember the Bovril from the kitchen window. Miss Trott the principal with droopy boobs; Miss Hillyer, Miss Brown, Miss Wylie, who had a boiled egg for lunch every day; Miss manly, Mrs. Robuck. Would love to know the names of these students, but have to admit I really can't recall many of them.

Diana B. said...

I don't think I learned much either. My parents should have saved their money and sent me to a local state school.

Wads said...

Can anyone recommend a good local Chinese take away that delivers to WP?

littlesmiff said...

Suggest you try Classic Wok in Central Road. Good food, good prices. Better service if you can go and pick up but they deliver within a two mile radius if you are patient or place your order earlier than you need it. Also the owners are very pleasant, cheerful and polite. Been using them for about three years and not had a bad meal yet.

JC of WP said...

New Capital in North Cheam deliver orders over £10 for 60p delivery charge and have nice menu Tel No 0208 644 9020

Peridar said...

Hi, I was at Kingsley from '62 to '67. Miss Hillyer was then head, it was OK if you were a teachers favourite otherwise quite strict and education very basic and Victorian. It was bought in '66 by a middle aged couple, she had the appearance of an ex model and reeked of Este Lauda, I still remember it now!!! I think it was a project for them not a serious foray into education. It mysteriously burnt down (possible electrical fault!!!) not long after they took it over, but just before my GCE 'O' levels, so we were bussed to another school daily for the next few months until I left. The owners sold the site and I guess made a lot of money as it was a prime site in the Avenue, and a block of flats stands there now I believe it was called Kingsley Court. I recall brown walls, and linoleum, lots of stairs and a strict uniform code with winter and summer hats (hated those) and warm milk in the conservatory.

Peridar said...

Hi I was a Kingsley Girl, probably just after you as miss Hillyer was in charge then. Yes I remember Miss Swaisland, lovely lady but LARGE. she died from a heart attack while I was there. I burnt down in my last year just after it had been taken over...strange that!

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